Mojang clearly wants pay-to-win to stop, thoughts?

Discussion in 'Donation questions' started by MCSmelter, Jun 5, 2014.

  1. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

  2. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    People see it but have no idea what they're looking at so they don't comment XD
     
  3. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    I think they cant stop it.
    And its not allowed to stop it.
     
  4. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Why not?
    What this and many other servers are doing is clearly not what Mojang want them to do, and MarkIRL is campaigning to try and make what Grumm said in this post to be their actual TOS, meaning it will be illegal in the future.
     
  5. lzongolo

    lzongolo New Member

    People can decide whether to pay or not for something. It is your decision, and if you want to buy it then you do. Mojang can't stop that, there would be no way to anyway, and if people want some perks and to be better than others, it's their choice. So I'm totally against that.
     
  6. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    *cough*surprise surprise*cough*

    Mojang can enforce servers not offering these 'donations' in the first place in the EULA, therefore removing the option for people to choose it in the first place. Many of the people who are 'donating' are actually naive young children that haven't learn't that stealing from your parents is bad. Also, it is barely a decision, servers rely on people becoming addicted combined with their ignorance and lack of life experience in order for them to actually pay anything. Also, the things that servers are selling are technically property of Mojang, and people re-selling them is undeniably illegal. Unfortunately, the majority of people playing on servers are this; ignorant, young and impressionable. Although choosing to donate out of the greater half of their dirty modernised hearts would teach them valuable life lessons that will turn them into better Human beings, I don't see these kids caring too much about the servers they play on. If Mojang had enforced this TOS 5 years ago then these servers would not have been fashioned in such a way, but things happen. The only way of removing the bad apple servers is to prohibit every server from creating such 'donation' packs, thus restricting these servers from functioning. Everyone will then mature up and flood over to the good/adequate servers of minecraft and a majority will be happy.
     
  7. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    That's true, Runescape do a similar thing, well, Jagex. RSGP selling is against the rules as it is property of Jagex. But then again, idk how we would fund this server. But yeah pay2win is nooby
     
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  8. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    That's what Mojang has to work out
     
  9. lzongolo

    lzongolo New Member

    I kinda agree, the problem is how will the servers earn money? As you say, the majority don't care about the server, so they wouldn't donate if they wouldn't get anything - And if a server is pretty good, but doesn't have that much money, it will probably close. Let's just hope Mojang won't enforce people not to donate.
     
  10. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    They will never enforce people not donating at all, because people are aloud to choose their donation preference to anything, even the North Korean army, but I think they are working hard to find a way of compensating for the loss of donations that would occur.
     
  11. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    I donate money to support the server. Why else would I buy the tnt kit lol.
     
  12. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    cuz its the only kit I approve of
     
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  13. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    But its like the opposite of pay2win. Its basically pay 2 be blown up tragically.
     
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  14. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Ik that's why it's amazing
     
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  15. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    Ik it was fun while it lasted.
     
  16. xChizle

    xChizle Not your average duck.

    I think it's utter bullcrap, they just need more money for realms.
    Parents of kids have been complaining that their kid steals their credit card and starts paying for stuff on minecraft servers. That's not Mojangs problem, but that's just horrible parenting...Anyways this is not the place to do my entire story/opinion about that, but let's just keep it at: Bs
     
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  17. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    They don't get money from this update to their EULA.
     
  18. NateDoggIreland

    NateDoggIreland Staying Loyal To Squad!

    It Depends some servers are completely pay to win servers where u get like a wood sword in kit pvp where as if you donate u get full d prot 4 which unless u dont know how to attack someone u will win unlike squad because smelter is an example he has not payed to skywars he is still winning and it costs alot to pay for a server as mojang know so asking ppl do donate is not a bad thing. It is optional and u get perks out of it to say thank you for keeping the sever alive. therefore it should stay as long as it isnt completely pay to win
     
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  19. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    That's because I'm a pro.. jklol#modestyFTL
     
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  20. Shadow

    Shadow Glongle

  21. Minion2317

    Minion2317 smeags and madi are bae

    Wtf
     
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  22. UncleBats

    UncleBats Sir Cactus

    I think that moderate prices are just fine, like in the case of kitpvp. You can buy a good kit for $2.50, where in factions everything is expensive. I think Mojang is trying to make it so servers can't make lots of money (factions[going back to the server)].My question is, how will servers survive? Squadcraft lives off of both small donations and large ones, but if all are cut off then only the people that care enough about it will donate, not for a kit, but just to keep the server alive. That can't possibly last forever, and the people that care can't possibly provide enough out of their own pocket for a quality server, can they?
     
  23. UncleBats

    UncleBats Sir Cactus

    Like what MCSmelter said earlier, there isn much Mojang can do about kids "borrowing" their parents' credit card.
     
  24. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    squads ignoring eula lol
     
  25. UncleBats

    UncleBats Sir Cactus

    Is that going to catch up with them eventually?
     
  26. Minion2317

    Minion2317 smeags and madi are bae

    Nope
     
  27. UncleBats

    UncleBats Sir Cactus

    How so?
     
  28. Minion2317

    Minion2317 smeags and madi are bae

    They found a loop hole
     
  29. UncleBats

    UncleBats Sir Cactus

    Awesome! I hope it works for the server.
     
  30. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    I'm sort of annoyed that pay2win hasn't stopped for this server. Would be nice to play kitpvp without getting raped by a couple phantoms and berserkers.
     
  31. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    STOP NECROPOSTING GODDAMMIT
     
  32. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    and skywars bedrocks w/ their full chain and enderpearls
     
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  33. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    That isn't necroposting Rev, le naivety is 2 stronk in this one.
     
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  34. UncleBats

    UncleBats Sir Cactus

    What exactly do you mean?
     
  35. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    He is saying that you necroposted on this thread, but you didn't as your post was relevant to the thread.
     
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  36. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

  37. UncleBats

    UncleBats Sir Cactus

    Gotcha. I just looked up more on the EULA, and from what I see there isn't really a lawful way to monetize a server unless you charge direct access to it, like an entry fee. Squadcraft seems to be doing fine though, so I'm not going to question the method.
     
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  38. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    Ooh ya or some random gold with a crapton of arrows ahem ahem
     
  39. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    I only have 7 and i dont bow spam like most of the other donors
     
  40. Nosweg

    Nosweg The Sweg God | Quitted

    I buy a bow kit buy 2 stacks arrows shoot everyone crap out their eyez
    Rev wins
    Does it again
     
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  41. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    I bow spam.
     
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  42. Shrek

    Shrek Shrek

    Everyone calm down, it's ok. I will fill Notch and Jeb's butts with love and force them to pray for me and for them to take the Eula away...... Then I will say it's all ogre now
     
  43. Jerzy5821

    Jerzy5821 JJmac's Brother

    Well i'm no smartass though it looks like shit could go tits up if this doesn't get solved
     
  44. Jerzy5821

    Jerzy5821 JJmac's Brother

    Bring them on, the other day these two huligans by the names "KillerHamster" & "JEVH_Ender" kept joining the game and teaming... Every game they joined with me for some reason and I kept shoving cookies up their asses... And yes that is good.. For me
     
  45. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    JEVC_EnderBro*
     
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  46. Jerzy5821

    Jerzy5821 JJmac's Brother

    Yeah him.
     
  47. Kalan

    Kalan >> Retired Member <<

    Uh yeah they can. Do you even know what EULA stands for? o_O
     
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  48. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    I know right.
     
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