ok just getting it out there, I do NOT believe in god, but i was given an assignment to defend that jesus wasn't in a coma and that he was dead for 72 hours. i dont want to bullshit anyone so i'd like someone to see if this stuff is somewhat accurate (not in terms of jesus being real). homework, yo @MLGProGamer123 @TcWxFusions2 @EdibleBananas @MetaMonkeyz you're not obliged to do this but i figured you lot are some of the smartest peeps i know so ye c; anyone can feel free to answer tho Why a deep coma isn’t possible Some say that Jesus didn’t actually die on the cross, that he was in a deep coma that lasted for 72 hours. This is known as the swoon theory The romans who executed jesus were experts of execution and would be executed themselves if they hadn’t mercilessly executed the condemned. They were tortured in such a way that it simply wouldn’t be possible for Jesus to have survived the crucifixion and they made sure that Jesus would’ve died, checking he wasn’t able to breathe. Back in the day, you had no hospital. In a coma, you’d be able to breathe, but not very well. You’d need professional equipment for you to breathe sufficiently, but the soldiers would’ve made sure you weren’t in a coma. And 2000 years ago, with no efficient medical system, it was highly unlikely you’d recover from a deep coma. Things like this are something the devil would tell you in order to deter you from believing in God. You see, jesus had been nailed to the cross, which that in itself would’ve killed Jesus. He was also speared at the sides, which would have resulted in Jesus losing a good amount of blood. You may say it’s not possible for jesus to have bled to death for with the nails still in his hands because the blood would’ve stayed in his hands and feet for as long as the nails were still in his body. It’s most likely that jesus would’ve also internally bled and his veins would have been ripped in the process of his crucifixion, because if you look closely, there are viens scattered across your hands and feet. There’s no doubt that the nails would’ve pierced through the bones of the victim, ultimately putting Jesus in excruciating pain. It’s said that pain can cause death. There are various ways in which you can possibly die from pain. It can cause an adrenergic shock which depending on the severity of this shock, brain strokes, heart attacks, edema and more fatal things can occur. Another way in which pain can kill you is if the sympathetic outflow caused by the sheer agony of pain stresses the cardiovascular system (circulatory system) to a point when blood vessels can break into the brain or heart. Pain itself can’t kill you, but you can die from the cause of pain. Jesus decided not to take the pain killers, so the pain he experienced would’ve been 10x as worse as someone who took them, therefore increasing the chance of him dying as a result of pain. It’s more likely for Jesus to have died from pain than for him to have had a coma, people have been in comas for much longer than for how long jesus was ‘dead’ for much smaller things. No morphine? No medication? Yes, 72 days in a coma for a brutal stabbing is not likely at all. Jesus couldn’t have simply used his powers to save himself, that’d be abuse of his powers, in the end of the die he died for us to have salvation, not to pull off a stunt for publicity or to show off his powers. God wanted him to die, and he would’ve made sure he would, he didn’t hate Jesus but this would save us from all our sins and show that the man they killed was the real Messiah. edit: only written 550 words, idk what else to say but i wanna get to 1000 words so i can shit on the other side when it comes to the debate
Logically, blood loss would make you unconscious, not put into a coma, plus with the veins you mentioned, the important ones being right at your wrist, blood loss for that would be so severe youd die in minutes (for severity). Being in a coma would require you to be in a "less blood loss" state, losing blood woild make you unconscious as I said earlier, a coma is there to stablize things like that, so if he was in a coma, he would've been losing practically no blood
Well, pain can't kill you directly, I agree with that. However, pain can cause loss of consciousness. Even then however, a coma would have been unlikely, since comas are a specific type of loss of consciousness due to something affecting the brain. In a coma, a person is still alive and breathing, but unconscious. The reason they're still alive is because they still have blood. So a coma is mostly due to encephalopathy, whereas unconsciousness can be caused by excruciating pain, and/or blood loss. That part is fine. However, one must consider that quick, direct trauma (the trauma has to be severe and direct, for example, hacking and sawing off this muscle, or in this case, hammering nails into Jesus' limbs) can cause a fat embolism. Fat embolisms are devastating because unlike normal blood clots, fat embolisms can't be dissolved by plasminogen activators, specifically because fat isn't blood. Only blood clots contain plasminogen zymogens which can then be activated by plasminogen activators to induce thrombolysis. This fat embolism could have lodged anywhere in Jesus' body, including the brain, lungs, or heart, all of which would have caused sudden death due to stroke, pulmonary embolism, and myocardial infarction, respectively. Even if the clot lodged in a non-essential part of the body, that part would have exhibited necrosis, giving way to flesh-eating bacteria, leading to sepsis, and therefore death. As for the adrenergic part, it's fine, but the more well-known term is 'adrenergic storm'. This is a life threatening condition due to severe tachycardia and hypertension, which could cause aneurysms, myocardial infarction, pulmonary embolism, stroke, etc. So I'd say that medically, this excerpt is fine. And we all know that there is no god @Twerkae Edit: Bolded text in my post which I'm replying to.
I agree with the general idea and scientific logic behind what you said. However, Muslims have a different story as to what happened. Please note, this may be slightly off factually We believe, when Jesus was hiding from the Romans (I think), a man who he had trusted betrayed him, and led the Romans to the cave where he was hiding. The man went in, alone, only to find that Jesus had disappeared (resurrected to Heaven). However, when he came back out, attempting to explain what had happened, his features had been altered by God to make him look like Jesus. So, the Romans took this man, who had betrayed Jesus, and crucified him. Jesus wasn't crucified, but rather summoned to Heaven
Question: If you don't believe in God, then why are you in religious studies? Unless you were forced to go to a religious school that contains a high grade average, then that would make sense.
Lol I'm 11 and living in England, no chance I get to choose what i take. Also, I enjoy religious studies so when I do get to choose I'll take it
Lol I'm 11 and living in England, no chance I get to choose what i take. Also, I enjoy religious studies so when I do get to choose I'll take it
Naturally maturity seems to grow as you grow older. It's a saying where you are seen as more mature the older you are, it was meant as a compliment.
kfc is shit where I live. 1) I have to drive a long ass distance to go to kfc 2) the food gives the worst stomache after 3) no kfc
