Opinions?

Discussion in 'General chat' started by Jerry2kewl, Mar 23, 2016.

  1. Jerry2kewl

    Jerry2kewl From Ebay C/O $6.95 Staff Member Mod

    SquadCraft
    ~~ Some of you may know me, and some many not. However this is a question to everyone of this community!

    Obviously, without a doubt Squadcraft's current state isn't too good. I just want your guys input on this and please honestly answer these questions, without giving me some stupid answer.

    1) Why did you leave this server? Explain
    2) What do you think should be added to this server to make you and other players join back? Give Examples!


    If you guys have been playing on the server for quite some time now, you would know the dramatic change of this server over time. Im currently trying to figure out the problem for the decay in player count. So if you guys could answer these questions with honesty it would really help me figure the cause of this issue. Also when you guys are stating some examples, please explain how it will help this server!
    - Don't hate on anyone's personal opinions
    - If you're gonna be a wise man and say something stupid, please don't

    Also I know for a fact that this server is overpopulated with hackers, and yes that is an issue. However right now, that is the least of our problems because we should be focusing more on what we should do to bring back players.

    ~~ My Story ~~
    ===============

    The reason I quit like 1-2 years ago wasn't the community, but the server itself. I did't feel anything at all playing on this server. I told everyone I quit this server because of school but really I quit because squad didn't give me any sign telling me I should stay and play. A few months ago I decided to hop back on to revisit squadcraft, not to play, but to experience the new environment and community. Lets just say, not much has changed. However I decided to play again, and I'm beginning to feel the exact same thing I felt 1-2 years ago.

    ~~ Inputs and Ideas ~~
    ====================

    To be honest with you, I just want to hear your guys thoughts on how we can bring this server to its peak!
    @surgetheurge
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2016
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  2. Newb

    Newb *inhales*...

    I quit cuz I got banned

    Work on the player count, it's just the same players every day
     
  3. MetaMonkeyz

    MetaMonkeyz Ign is SnowBagel. Staff Member Mod

    This is great and all, I just wish surge would listen.
     
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  4. Dancer

    Dancer New Member

    I asked surge to ban a hacker and all he said was when a hacker gets so many reports he will ban them.
     
  5. Newb

    Newb *inhales*...

    ._.
     
  6. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    that player had legit ncp. Also with people cheating by using better pvp mod and increasing their fov to quake pro (yes that gives you unfair reach). I can't even tell who is hacking and who isn't because everyone is pvping like a hacker with the same performance as a hacker. So yea, I needed to wait longer for that guy to rack up some ncp reports so i can tell if he is hacking or not. I can't just ban anyone you point your finger at.
     
  7. MetaMonkeyz

    MetaMonkeyz Ign is SnowBagel. Staff Member Mod

    Hi dad
     
  8. Dancer

    Dancer New Member

    I did tell you to come on and actually watch the person hacking you cant always rely on the ncp everytime.
     
  9. Newb

    Newb *inhales*...

    Soooooo you'd rather rely on a machine than a person?
     
  10. Jerry2kewl

    Jerry2kewl From Ebay C/O $6.95 Staff Member Mod

    Surge came last night and I've been talking to him. He said he would listen, if you guys could give him something to work eith
     
  11. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    soooooooooooo you want me to ban anyone that anyone else tells me to?
     
  12. Jerry2kewl

    Jerry2kewl From Ebay C/O $6.95 Staff Member Mod

    You don't think I know that? If you give us some tips and things we should do, that would be great, otherwise I can't really suggest anything to surge, from this comment.

    Hackers are the least of our problems, right now we need to do something about getting players back, and bringing in new players. We need to think of something that would really help the server out. Think of a restaurant, they draw in attention and customers, because of great food and atmosphere, so we need to think of something that could do the same
     
  13. Dancer

    Dancer New Member

    Getting rid of hackers is actually a big problem as players are leaving due to the vast amount of hackers on the server at the moment.
     
  14. Jerry2kewl

    Jerry2kewl From Ebay C/O $6.95 Staff Member Mod

    Okay, I know that's an issue, but the point of this thread was to get the reasons of why players quit. And if the major votes were on hackers than we can do something about it.

    I made this thread for surge so that he could know the real reason behind players quitting
     
  15. xNic

    xNic New Member

    Add in better power ups to kitpvp, and get rid of the old factions. Make the new one seem more like factions too. Right now, I feel like I'm on an extremely limited creative mode instead of factions. Maybe a designated pvp area?
     
  16. Dancer

    Dancer New Member

    Hackers is one of the reasons which is why I'm stating it.
     
  17. lluigi

    lluigi Dancer

    1) no staff this means that no one to help with not just rule breakers but help people joining to learn about the server and actually have a good time
    2) the current quality of certain areas of the server like kitpvp's hit reg (which is better but still needs work) make the servers quality and inturn intrest to newer members and older ones alike drop
    3) at the moment surge you need to take some more time to engage with the people on the server and get their opinions i.e. if everyone says hybrid ghost should be removed look into it
     
  18. xNic

    xNic New Member

    Hackers don't bring in new players tho. We can get rid of them.
    Agreed. Surge, you need to see what the community wants, and quit adding things that we don't like. You do that, you lose players.
     
  19. lluigi

    lluigi Dancer

    So look at the hundreds of mod apps you have surge and mod some people now i get you might not trust people so solution make them temp mods after a couple of months get peoples opinion on them and decide to keep them or not the difference with these temp mods would be shorter max jails etc or simply nothing that is for you to decide not me.
     
  20. xNic

    xNic New Member

    Also surge, if you really want to keep this server going....

    Hire @Crixiaro as moderator right now. He's a trustworthy player and everyone loves him. Do it. We need more mods.

    Yes

    Sorry if I seem like I'm bashing you surge, it's just that I want this server to be back to 200+ players, and I know that there is a way to do so. Just please listen to what we have to say. Please.
     
  21. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    Why do you say that you feel like you are in limited creative? because you have everything? and why do you feel it's bad?

    Well some more anti hacker features for implemented. Also the server has a lot of freedom. Almost all the issues you would need a staff member for can be solved just be /ignoring the person that has a problem with you.

    idk about the kitpvp hitreg
     
  22. Goran

    Goran :b Mod

    This is gonna get locked I feel it coming
     
  23. Crixiaro

    Crixiaro Karma Staff Member Mod

    Man, this guy! He keeps promoting me with positive comments! Thanks so much mate.
     
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  24. xNic

    xNic New Member

    LOL no problem man! Everyone likes you, and supports you as moderator.
     
  25. Newb

    Newb *inhales*...

    If their video proof is valid, and everyone agrees that it's hacking, then that's when you use the ban slayer thingy
     
  26. Davinder

    Davinder New Member

    it's called bum licking
     
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  27. Crixiaro

    Crixiaro Karma Staff Member Mod

    Surge, right now it's not the kitpvp hit reg that really matters. Take a look at the kitpvp hack/ddos report threads I think some of them are clear hacks. If you can begin to ban those players that would be a start. The server is literally infested by hackers, which can be fixed. Players are taking personal time out of there day to report these guys. If you just ban a few people who so hackers will feel the threat instead of considering squad as a server where no one gets banned.

    Secondly mods do need the ability to jail people for over a day. This puts pressure on you to ban them within the time limit if they are 100% hackers. Maybe 3, 4 days? If I was squads owner personally I would give mods I trust he ability to perm ban. Another preferable addition to squad would maybe be giving head mod another go. Then players would also get banned more consistently.
     
  28. xNic

    xNic New Member

    It's called "we need a good mod(s)"
     
  29. Newb

    Newb *inhales*...

    Was I talking to you? You don't speak for the community so shut up yeh knob.
     
  30. Jerry2kewl

    Jerry2kewl From Ebay C/O $6.95 Staff Member Mod

    I liek knobs
     
  31. lluigi

    lluigi Dancer

    Yes but not everything can be dealt with with plugins surge they are just too limited
     
  32. Jerry2kewl

    Jerry2kewl From Ebay C/O $6.95 Staff Member Mod

    Surge i think what they r saying is that, you should take some time to go through the ban reports, and take immediate actions on the one with 100% proof of them hacking.

    @Newb didn't see what you put sorry
     
  33. Crixiaro

    Crixiaro Karma Staff Member Mod

    On the note of opinions, eh maybe this does need some consideration. It's what the people want that's what is going to make this server popular. The main few things people need/want on this server is:
    • A strong staff team who regularly check forums and in game.
    • New original ideas to add to the server.
    • A server that keeps players attached and wanting to come back. (Such as the kitpvp stats system)

    Surge, it's crucial that you do take in players opinion and use them as either positive, feedback with some pointers or, if they are not so positive constructive criticism. DO NOT take pointers as offensive downers.
     
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  34. Newb

    Newb *inhales*...

    NO SHIT
    We don't need someone to speak for us, Surge reads our comments. Just cause he doesn't respond doesn't mean he doesn't read what we say.
     
  35. Jerry2kewl

    Jerry2kewl From Ebay C/O $6.95 Staff Member Mod

    lol kayyyyyyyyyy.

    for those original ideas, could you possibly give some ideas and say how it would help surge?
     
  36. MetaMonkeyz

    MetaMonkeyz Ign is SnowBagel. Staff Member Mod

    Knobs = dick
     
  37. Newb

    Newb *inhales*...

    U knewb
     
  38. Crixiaro

    Crixiaro Karma Staff Member Mod

    He knows what I mean. New plugins, kitpvp systems, ways to spend money on the server, I don't know I'm some genius who can come up with these on the spot. That's the point he needs to time to consider what new to make.
     
  39. Jerry2kewl

    Jerry2kewl From Ebay C/O $6.95 Staff Member Mod

    u newb
     
  40. ymybuddies

    ymybuddies "New" member

    I am worried now
     
  41. Dancer

    Dancer New Member

    psh I could just be mod again would solve everything. Just kidding why would I ever do that again
     
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  42. ymybuddies

    ymybuddies "New" member

    If someone legitimately goes out of their to make an entire report you should most likely go and actually talk to the person
     
  43. MetaMonkeyz

    MetaMonkeyz Ign is SnowBagel. Staff Member Mod

    Nobody knows who u are tho rn
     
  44. ymybuddies

    ymybuddies "New" member

    Hey man i feel you i became a mod on this one horrible server to help regular players i had less power than when i was a player.
     
  45. smeags

    smeags Intentionally Philosophical

    There's a big hole in this thread.

    When you ask someone why they left the server, the majority of people have... ya know... left the server. Meaning that they won't see it, and making that question pointless, as the only people who do answer are people that haven't left, not totally anyway.
     
  46. Agardino

    Agardino Member New

    Surge. Mr. Thick Skull. When a guy has anti-kb he's hacking. When a guy is comboing the living hell out of you from 6+ blocks away. He's hacking. It's not a matter of "Quaker Pro" because that'd just be inaccurate and wouldn't be able to land those hits that hackers do get. Even with a low dpi. Might I mention that your continuous belief on the ncp system makes me lose a brain cell or two. A HUMAN>MACHINE. Get that shit through your brain, relying on a person is better than relying on some old peice of junk that barely jails actual hackers. And I know you said "Should I just ban people you tell me to ban" Well damn, I guess you forgot about the Have Proof part. If someone says "Ban dis ked he has anti-kb kill aura and every other hack" you'd obviously ignore it for no proof. But when people actually record someone hacking you STILL don't bother to ban them, the least you could do is leave a message saying this hacker's been banned to clarify things.
     
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  47. xNic

    xNic New Member

    He can't get away from the machines. That's why we got jail every five seconds. That's why hackers get away. That's why he hasn't hired staff.
     
  48. Dancer

    Dancer New Member

    Good :)
     
  49. Goran

    Goran :b Mod

    That is what surge is planning to do
     
  50. xNic

    xNic New Member

    Yes! @surgetheurge thats a good start.
     
  51. Twerkae

    Twerkae Louis

    Ur telling me I got demoted for using quake pro... gimme a sec
     
  52. iTone

    iTone DinoLyfe

    does quake pro actually give you unfair reach? or does it just look like you have more reach
     
  53. g_p

    g_p grondewa

    I ACTUALLY DONT KNOW IF YOUR JOKING OR NOT LMFAO HOW DOES INCREASING YOUR FOV GIVE YOU BETTER REACH
     
  54. xSkaro

    xSkaro ey

    I'm going to use quake pro now.
     
  55. Lostvayne

    Lostvayne I'll dance alone tonight Staff Member Mod

    Things look more distant and gives you a bigger view (somewhat distorted though) but it does not give you any unfair advantage such as greater reach. It is literally available to anyone because it is a part of the fucking game.
     
  56. xNic

    xNic New Member

    I hope that was a joke... Quake pro doesn't do anything but give you a better view.
     
  57. Deluxe20

    Deluxe20 Angel Of Death

    Honestly, I just want to play the same Factions from 3 years ago. None of this "new idea" bullshit for each server to make it "unique." Also the price increment for ranks and GOD for 1k? Not even pay to win. More like pay to get scammed because you will lose command privileges in the future. No more /pv, inflation on the factions economy, and just vanilla enchants.
     
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  58. Twerkae

    Twerkae Louis

    lol why's everyone wasting time asking surge to do this this and that, he never fucking listens dude
    it's gotten to the point where i cant wait to see sc finally die, it gets shitter and shitter by the minute
     

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