He's not asking random people, he's asking staff. And wanna know what's annoying? When you constantly think you need to curse every time you say something. It's honestly pathetic
You lecturing someone and saying what they are doing is pathetic is hypocritical. Saying I try to prove anyone wrong and saying he is pathetic for cussing? It's pathetic how you're trying so hard to seem mature when all you do is criticize others.
Calling someone out because their cussing is "annoying"? Then it would be hypocritical because someone else will find him calling someone out annoying. The cycle will continue.
It's not hypocritical at all because you don't see me going around throwing curse words everywhere. If I did, then it wold be. To be honest you're being a hypocrite because all you do is criticize others. The only reason you're even backing him up is because you curse half the time. Worst part is, you're a mod. Setting a good example eh?
Can you read? I said a very specific thing was hypocritical. and since when are you everyone? I only criticize a few specific people. I'M A MOD AND I CUSS, I'M BREAKING EVERY MORAL CODE THERE IS. Are you 10? To be honest kids who complain about cussing (when it's allowed) are some whiny spoon-fed kids. I don't cuss in game because it's a rule there, So you're just bringing up useless information.
That isn't hypocrisy. It would be hypocritical if he said that and then proceeded to start going at it like a sailor. Someone finding it annoying is just another person finding something annoying. Anyway, this doesn't make the original point invalid, since excessive cussing does grate on the nerves.
Ah, ok. Never here anymore, so I'm quite behind. But wouldn't have guessed judging by your attitude in this thread...you should be setting the example instead of throwing juvenile insults like "Are you 10" at other members.
Why does everyone bring up a "you should be setting an example" excuse? I'm staff, so what. We do our job and aren't meant to be role models, and I am not breaking any rules that would even count as me setting a bad example. Have you seen any of the past mods? Who actually broke rules and abused and never had that excuse made at them.
Because you should be setting an example...that is a large part of the job. You wouldn't want to see a mod who "enforces" the rules while not acting in accordance with them. And not sure who you are referring to, because all of the mods who didn't act like an authority have been told that.
Show me exactly where I am not in accordance to the rules. Sikk definitely wasn't told that. and setting an example isn't "a large part of the job" by any means, You clearly haven't seen how rebellious factions and sc players in general are if you think that actually matters.
I never said you were directly breaking rules; rather, I was setting an example. I am mainly referencing the rudeness in your reply at 3:21 AM. I also just explained how it is a large part of the job, and as for your last sentence, how other people act shouldn't have to influence your job as long as you're enforcing the rules.
Ok, now you are contradicting yourself. How other people act shouldn't influence how I do my job as long as I enforce the rules, So that would mean you are implying enforcing the rules is my only job yet earlier you said that being a role model is also a large part of the job (which it isn't)
and as to your comment before the last, What about Lucas, Sikk, Nicole, and all the other rude mods? Lucas was the only one demoted but that wasn't even for being rude, That was for abusing. They were never told to act as role models and if they were told, they sure as hell didn't listen so I honestly don't know where you got that idea.
Extreme to say I implied "enforcing is your ONLY job", but the last part did come out wrong. I meant that, if they're rebellious, it shouldn't alter how you, a higher authority, should demonstrate proper behavior while enforcing the rules. Otherwise that would make you (hate to say it, as it's been said several times in this thread) a hypocrite.
And if setting the example isn't a part of your job as a mod, then what is your definition of a mod? Typically that's part of what authorities do. It doesn't need to be written in a handbook that "all mods must set an example for other players". It's simple logic, as I showed above.
How so? You think I act rude or harsh because of rebellious people? Oh, Please. It'd be bigger bull shit for me to act nice and forgiving than for me to act as myself. That'd basically put me as lying to everyone's face.
I may not be extremely respectful but I am still complying by the rules meaning all of your arguments painting a mod as HAVING to be some sort of a role model are utterly useless because it isn't in the job description to 1) be a role model 2) Not be harsh.
A mod is a moderator, It is implied in the name what the job is, is it not? People paint mods as having to be role models but that isn't the case at all. If they employer of the mods expects you to be a role model, You should try and be one but it isn't mandatory either as long as you don't break rules.
Also, It isn't simple logic. It isn't even logic, You are literally of your own will moderating a server with no pay. If I were a manager at a store, It is kind of obvious I would have to treat my customers with respect or at the very least not rudely to not lose my source of income, but that income is the only reason someone would deal with everything in that manner
I'm not keen on SC history either, so I won't engage in how "this person got demoted, that one didn't". But in my time, if a mod was acting out of control, he/she was warned--a couple incidents I remember. My point is they shouldn't even have to be told, because how they act naturally helps determine what other people see as "ok." Like I said, you can't enforce rules if you don't demonstrate following them yourself.
How many times must I say this to you? I am breaking NO rules. Sikk wasn't demoted/warned despite being rude and abusing (He wasn't in your time but just before), Nicole and Patrick were just rude a lot along with others and they were in your time and went without any warnings or demotions on sc and if they were warned, They sure didn't listen and still weren't penalized.
In response to your consecutive 4 posts.
1.) Not what I said. But if you don't have the qualities needed to mod, why be a mod?
2.) Didn't realize that something not being in the "job description" refutes all of my arguments..Also, I thought mod applications ask for "Respectfulness on a scale of 1-10" for a reason.
3.) I asked what your definition of a mod is (what you think your job is as a mod), not what mod is short for. Also, how can you be following all the rules and not be a role model? I suppose if being rude to other players is allowed...
4.) Not much point addressing this one. Sure. Technically you can go ahead and act however you want on the Internet. But the core of the argument is elsewhere.
Look. That's all I'm going to say. I'm not going to keep circling around this as I simply don't have the time, but I've made my point so I cease to kill my thumbs debating the issue. Good luck.
Mod is literally moderator, You enforce the rules. That's it. That's the definition. Google it. You apply of your own will either way. And what qualities do you think are needed to be mod? Being respectful to every single person isn't one of the necessary qualities for sure because it's literally in human nature to get annoyed or pissed at someone.
I respect and help a lot of new and old players alike because I want to and here you are thinking you have a place to say someone else lacks a quality is quite preposterous seeing as you know nothing about how I conduct myself elsewhere and all you have done is project your own ideals on how a job should be done and what people should act like simply because of a title that doesn't require what you believe it does.
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