Debate Topic #18 - Should Bedrock Enderpearl Kits Be Removed?

Discussion in 'Debates' started by Slayer77, Sep 9, 2014.

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Should the bedrock ender pearl kit be removed?

  1. Yes, ender pearls are too OP

    61.5%
  2. No, I'm honestly fine with being spawn killed.

    38.5%
  1. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    So I've seen a whole lot of @trabZit lately, and he's not a fun person to play with. Every single game he uses the bedrock ender pearl kit, and basically spawn kills everyone to win his games. This is annoying to everyone, and I think it should stop. I think the bedrock ender pearl kit should be removed, it gives players too much of an advange. So what do you guys/girls think?
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2014
  2. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    *Hilariously righteous way of agreeing with you*
    #lazy
     
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  3. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    I just realized this should have been put in debates, would a mod mind moving it please?
     
  4. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    Nah, a cool mod can move it there then delete these three posts talking about moving it there :)
    hint
     
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  5. The only bedrock who can win a game of skywars without kits is @nickbball9
     
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  6. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Yup, that's true.
     
  7. madisoncaylen

    madisoncaylen Former Staff - New user is: KibaInuzuka

  8. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Thanks:)
     
  9. I agree. It's not like it's a HUGE problem though, as I am mostly playing with @G0LDGUY who can't touch me.
     
  10. Budderman

    Budderman Skywars <emerald> kitpvp <crafter> swe <gold>

    Idc if they get removed
     
  11. Ibzzz

    Ibzzz ...

    You do
     
  12. Jonny_503

    Jonny_503 Guest

    Remove em. No end kit at all... replace the end kit with like.. a blaze kit. you get a blaze's playerhead w/ a flame bow x3 arrows.
     
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  13. Ibzzz

    Ibzzz ...

    I don't think it will be fair if they be removed but at least reduce them down to 4
     
  14. Jonny_503

    Jonny_503 Guest

    Lol budder chose No.
     
  15. Budderman

    Budderman Skywars <emerald> kitpvp <crafter> swe <gold>

    I really dont
     
  16. Budderman

    Budderman Skywars <emerald> kitpvp <crafter> swe <gold>

    Oops ill change it
     
  17. You should, otherwise you will fail.
     
  18. Jonny_503

    Jonny_503 Guest

    you cant ._.
     
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  19. Well, he did pay $500 for that kit. That is fair, if you kill a bedrock.
     
  20. Budderman

    Budderman Skywars <emerald> kitpvp <crafter> swe <gold>

    I had 8k before i ha gold
     
  21. Lol no
     
  22. Ibzzz

    Ibzzz ...

    But they just peark away when about to die
     
  23. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Yeah that sounds like a fair replacement.
     
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  24. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    That's exactly what Trabzit does, I get him down to around 4 hearts and he just e pearls away.
     
  25. Okay, why is the cost of enderpearls a lot? It costs $500 so it's more than fair
     
  26. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    That's called pay2win my friend, which is unfair no matter what way you look at it.
     
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  27. nickbball9

    nickbball9 [Bedrock] [Emerald] [Crafter]

    :3
     
  28. Well, in my opinion,




    If you kill a bedrock who Ender pearls to you, you have all the Ender pearls to yourself. They paid the money for it, so they should rightfully own it. Also, if this were to be removed, They'll start asking for refunds since their most op kit gets removed, then that could lead to them reporting Squadcraft to Mojang multiple times, suing them, rioting the chat, hacking, and DDoSing.

    The Ender pearls are Op. They have an unfair advantage and you can just Ender pearl to someone's island and kill then. If a Bedrock was teaming , he could just Ender pearl to his friends island, split the Ender pearls, and kill every other player. There used to be a glitch that when you Ender pearl to someone's island, you couldn't attack anyone within 5 seconds. I think that is fair because you could prepare yourself incase someone Ender pearls to your island.




    They shouldn't be removed. I believe when a bedrock Ender pearls to someone, there should be 5 seconds where the bedrock can't attack, and he can't attack the person he is trying to kill. That is my opinion on this debate.
     
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  29. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    That is a good opinion, what you said is true. If they could possibly make a 5 second delay of attack after enderpearling that would be fine with me, otherwise there is still way to much pay to win.
     
  30. TcWxFUSIONS

    TcWxFUSIONS Mostly known as Joey

    Every time you ender pearled to my island I killed you so I don't really care about the kit
     
  31. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    No lol when you first came to sw you had gold
     
  32. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    and @Deedster6
     
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  33. nickbball9

    nickbball9 [Bedrock] [Emerald] [Crafter]

    sometimes, depends if he is tired or not ;3
     
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  34. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    If they were smart enough to learn how DDos
     
  35. how To DDOS
     
  36. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    how to DoS.
     
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  37. Okay you got me there
     
  38. "DADDY! You know how to DDoS?"
    "No son."
    "HEY! YOU CALL ME SKYTHE1234 OR ILL STAB YOU WITH A DIAMOND SWORD!"
    "Kid..."
     
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  39. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

  40. sloweralmond05

    sloweralmond05 ha ha i like u

    well i voted no cause theres usually no "bedrock" ranks on swe
     
  41. nickbball9

    nickbball9 [Bedrock] [Emerald] [Crafter]

    SOMETIMES
     
  42. JRaptor77

    JRaptor77 Cya cx

    I voted no. It can be annoying to get spawn-killed, but I don't think they should be removed just because people spawn-kill with them. They paid tons of money for their kits, so it's only right that they should get an OP kit of some sort (my opinion)..it's what they choose to do with that kit that gets annoying.
     
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  43. Yeah, and besides, most of them stink at PvP, as I easily beat @G0LDGUY and @trabZit with enough health to kill @TheUntamedTNT right after (not a Bedrock though)
     
  44. Datti123

    Datti123 Some Austrian,

    Definetly should be removed way too OP.
     
  45. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    should NOT be removed. its only fair because like raptor said, its alot of money so they should get OP stuff. i ussualy go to mid first so i dont realy spawn kill. i would <3 you forever if you vote to be spawnkilled because enderman is the best SIGNITURE.png mcaBE BAD AT PVP.png
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014
  46. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    I was having a bad day that day platinum :D
     
  47. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Pay2win is defined on Skywars by ender pearls
     
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  48. MCSmelter

    MCSmelter The Maul Awakens

    You can have those things in your signature :)
     
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  49. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

  50. They should stay, because otherwise @G0LDGUY would be at -1000, and that would be cruel.
     
  51. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    So the obvious problem with removing them is that bedrocks payed $500. But you have to remember that the end kit isn't the only OP kit they get, two kits with full sets of armour and a sword, the archer kit with 30 arrows, the flamebow kit with 15 arrows, and the spider and witch kit with 9 harmful potions. So you still have great kits if e pearls are removed. Also like Yum said, enderpearls are the definition of pay2win on skywars, there's no avoiding the element of surprise and a decent weapon, and even if the bedrock is losing he can e pearl away. The way I view enderpearls is a really cheap way out of pvp, and its also very lazy as well. Sure they payed $500, but removing one extremely unfair kit isn't the end of the OP world of bedrock kits.
     
  52. Shadow

    Shadow Glongle

    I bloody hagte G0LDGUY, I leave his game everytime I join because A) He's bedrock B) He hates me.
    Tbh, I'm fine with the enderpearl kit, as long as it isn't used to target.
     
  53. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    i use them to pearl to people or mid. if someone is killing me i dont ussualy e pearl away
     
  54. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    i dont target unless i HATE them (more than i hate shadow)
     
  55. Shadow

    Shadow Glongle

    <3
    No really, I don't have time for you so stop.
     
  56. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

  57. Sam is the MAN

    Sam is the MAN JRaptor77's godbrother

    I agree, like a 5 second grace period.
     
  58. CheeseQuacks

    CheeseQuacks Everyone should use the most OP kits they can!

    x15 arrows (come on they paid $500)
     
  59. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    if e pearls get removed. i quit squad
     
  60. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Why? Because you can't win without them? You have other OP kits, if they were removed it'd mean you'd just have to actually work for your kills.
     
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  61. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Quitting is a really lame excuse to get what you want lol.
     
  62. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Or how about this idea, obviously the bedrocks can't loose their biggest pay2win kit, and I hate to do this because I hate ender pearls, but what if 2 ender pearls were added to the gold archer kit, 4 to the diamond archer kit, 6 to the emerald archer kit, and the bedrocks get to keep their precious ender pearl kit. Reduces pay2win at least, but then you have the problem of everyone teleporting everywhere and skywars is ruined. I still think removing them altogether is the best idea, but there's an alternative.
     
  63. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    wow. the other kits arent that op. it was $500 so it should be OP
     
  64. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    ur idea is good but how about if gold didnt get any then diamond 2 then emerald 4 then bedock 16. cos e pearls in gold OP
     
  65. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Yeah a full set of chain armour and a diamond sword isn't OP at all, either is a full set of iron armour and a stone sword, oh and don't forget you get 30 arrows in your archer kit.
     
  66. Shadow

    Shadow Glongle

    I wouldn't give a shit if gold had no kits, I don't use them.
     
  67. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    E pearls are too OP already, give everyone some or don't let anyone have them is what I'm thinking.
     
  68. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    sounds good. but not normal players
    (non donors)
     
  69. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    But then there's still pay2win involved, it's just way easier and much fairer to remove them, than to add them to 3 different kits and to chests.
     
  70. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    plz dont get rid of e pearls. make a rule where ur not allowed to kill people by e pearling to then in the first 2 mins or else 1 hr ban?
     
  71. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    That's the bow rule all over again, you're already dead before you have a chance to get proof.
     
  72. Yum44

    Yum44 Zlol13's brother

    Hope you don't become a game developer soon... :L That logic is terrible
     
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  73. @G0LDGUY will suck once they are removed, that's why:)
     
  74. trabZit

    trabZit New Member

    OMG i cant stand it already i paid 500$ for bedrock its should be op im not a rich guy either!?
     
  75. Evravon30

    Evravon30 Born at a very young age

    Bedrock is 500$...

    If we remove enderpearls we would have to add another kit for Bedrocks
     
  76. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    There's a difference between OP kits and pay2win, and the bedrock e pearl kit is pay2win.
     
  77. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Jonny suggested the flame bow...
     
  78. trabZit

    trabZit New Member

    idc i paid 500$
     
  79. Evravon30

    Evravon30 Born at a very young age

    Oh, I didn't read through most of the mosts lol.

    BTW we already have flame bow.

    Its called kit blaze.
    You get 15 arrows and flame bow
     
  80. Shadow

    Shadow Glongle

    Ev is always right ;)
    [​IMG]
     
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  81. Jonny_503

    Jonny_503 Guest

    10? ;3
     
  82. Jonny_503

    Jonny_503 Guest

    but nobody uses it, are you able to anyway? never seen a bedrock use it ever, along with witch kit.
     
  83. Sam is the MAN

    Sam is the MAN JRaptor77's godbrother

    Bolt does. I wuz thinking bedrocks could only play a game with emeralds as they're op but not enough peeps to do that
     
  84. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Serious pay2win lmao, so you can actually win games.
     
  85. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    I've never seen anyone use the blaze kit, but I've seen one use the witch.
     
  86. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    You don't get it do you trabzit, you have other kits that give you rather large advantages, but e pearls give you WAY to much.
     
  87. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Jonny just made a great point on skywars, ender pearls may not be too OP for the $500 they paid, but they ruin the experience and enjoyment for all of us, another reason to remove them.
     
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  88. Jonny_503

    Jonny_503 Guest

    Just remove the kit and replace it with something else, get creative <3

    $500 = 16 Enderpearls, worth it, but NOT for skywars.
     
  89. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    So it's a neck to neck poll right now, not exactly what I was expecting. In the end, who ultimately decides what happens? Or are debates just like skywars maps lol, nothing is accepted or done.
     
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  90. bombohead

    bombohead New Member

    Yes Enderpearls are Too OP =17

    No I'm fine with being spawn killed =13

    Brace yourself @G0LDGUY
     
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  91. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    :"( what kit should i get if they DO get removed (andthey will)
     
  92. FireAnAntMan

    FireAnAntMan New Member

    the other pay2win kits you have
     
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  93. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    Um, maybe your FULL CHAIN and DIAMOND sword?
     
  94. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

  95. soso1432

    soso1432 New Member

    that mean
     
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  96. soso1432

    soso1432 New Member

    Lol I'm always excited when a bedrock is in my game because i just want to kill them for the pearls
     
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  97. soso1432

    soso1432 New Member

    I remember once I killed Sanadz and then I kept trolling this guy with my pearsl. Idk.... Pearls r 2 OP but I always aim to kill bedrocks for the pearls
     
  98. Slayer77

    Slayer77 I am Ficklinrules

    Yeah most of the bedrocks are easy to kill, and the pearls are fun to mess around with afterwords, but I'd still rather not have them.
     
  99. G0LDGUY

    G0LDGUY Just being nostalgic

    im sort of glad theyre getting removed cos i get targeted my loads of non donors just cos they think "oh im gonna get some pearls" and then build from the other side of the map
     
  100. WillCraftHD_FTW

    WillCraftHD_FTW got banned for advertising.

    You target me A LOT. And its funny because i still rek u
     
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