Combat.2, Anti-Macro and you.

Discussion in 'News' started by surgetheurge, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    A lot of players have been complaining about bad hit-reg. I mean A LOT. Like half the kitpvp server.
    Lets start by saying that we put in like 20 hours into a new combat system that removes the inefficiencies of minecraft combat. In this new system, as long as you are clicking on another player at least 3 times a second, you are having maximum damage over time. What does this mean? it means that the server is keeping track of all of your attacks, and as long as you are constantly fighting someone, those attacks are gonna come out back to back, with zero time loss. No hack or macro can ever give you this kind of efficiency.

    What are macros, speed clickers, and other methods for boosting your clicks per second? These are programs that increase your clicking speed. Why would you want to increase your clicking speed? In vanila minecraft, the more often you click, the higher the chance you have of performing more hits in less time. In vanilla minecraft, you can combo people. With our combat system, you can comboing everyone all the time. So what's the point of having a speed clicker, or click macros, or an auto clicker? Nothing.. there is none. At the moment, the server just picks up the player's inhumanly fast clicking rate and just starts ignoring your clicks. So benefits of macroing, and speed clicking? none. Negatives? your clicks won't go through after you hit someone 10 times in a second.

    This is such a big problem with so many people that I'm considering taking it off. There is another benefit though. A lot of hacks click 20 times a second, so this will make a lot of hacks be unable to hit players. This is basically the only benefit. Macros used to be against the rules, but now that they don't do anything anymore, i don't think they should be against the rules.

    So if you are having a problem where you are clicking someone and they are standing in front of you as if they are in god mode, just take off whatever you are using to click faster. It's not hitreg, some complaining about hitreg.

    Anyway sorry for the downtime today, fixed that issue for good, and have a nice day :D
     
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  2. Sloww

    Sloww ily

    Damn. Good job.
     
  3. God Slayer Playz

    God Slayer Playz New Member

    That must of took you awhile to make
     
  4. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    yea and everyone i ever talk in game only complains about bad hit reg, and says to let everyone be able to click 15-20 cps.
     
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  5. God Slayer Playz

    God Slayer Playz New Member

    Ok

    Btw can i ask somethin?
     
  6. xSkaro

    xSkaro ey

    You should try pvping on Kitpvp.
     
  7. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    I've been mostly on kitpvp these past few days, and I've never had a single problem. I even deoped my self on purpose to play like a regular player. Not a single one of my hits was canceled because I hit like 6 clicks per second. People can't click 15 cps legit, and even if they could what's the point. 3 cps will give you max dps. It's like trying to power your tv with a workout cycling machine, and you only have to do 3 rotations a minute to keep the tv on, but you do 15 with macros and gaming mouses and other minecraft mods. or worse, hacks. That's the only reason this is on there, to stop hacked clients. Yet you want to take it down so you can click 15 times a second, without a purpose.
     
  8. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    it's really depressing that everyone is a cheater, but i guess i will raise the limit because everyone is being such a baby about this.
    the limit is now 15, and if you complaining about it now, you should just be banned. not possible for humans to hit 15.
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2015
  9. xSkaro

    xSkaro ey

    Sure, this update could lower the amount of hackers using boosting their click speed, but it's ruining pvp for the rest of the other players. The purpose of taking it down is to improve the server. The hit registration was already bad before it, now it has gotten even worse. If you haven't noticed, Kitpvp has been dying. This is due to the fact that majority of the players can't even attack another because "they inhumanely fast". I could be standing in front of a player and just hitting them while clicking the way I normally do and all my hits would be ignored. The amount of people being kicked has increased, some hackers but also normal players. Take Meta, for instance, he doesn't hack yet console kicked and jailed him for an hour. It really is depressing that there are tons of cheaters on the server. You want to deal with them? Start banning them.

    The new update also allows players to rekit in combat. The glitch where armor is dropped when a person logs also has been reported today. And as I've told you before, remove glb because it makes it difficult for the staff and players to differentiate between hackers and non-hackers.
    If you think your new system is good, then leave it as it is. Don't raise the limit because "everyone is being such a baby about it", you need to raise it because you willingly want to. Realize it's negatively affecting the server and player enjoyment.
     
  10. surgetheurge

    surgetheurge Urges of Surge Admin

    Most hacked clients don't even have the option to change speed, and the speed is set at 20 cps. So it will do much more then just "could stop hackers".
    believe it or not, most players.... actually click at normal human clicking speeds, up to 10 clicks a second. What do ya know, amazing facts right?.
    Yea that's due to the weird bug where it jails players and sets their combined improbables to 90 billion. I'm trying to figure it out. Although we did have very high playercount yesterday.
    Try to not make shit up? Just because there are 5 kids with macros spamming and crying about their hits not going through, doesn't mean the whole server is having the same problem. The point is, those kids are dying, by normal players, that make up the majority of the server. That's why they are complaining, because they can't fight back. That means most normal people can still attack normally. Half the people complaining are using macros, the other half is just strait up hacking with paid hacked clients that are undetectable. I don't know why you are complaining, it's not hard to click at normal human speed. In fact it's very very very very very hard to click more then 10 clicks per second. Now I'm starting to think you are just using a paid hacked client and you can't do anything about the speed you are clicking with, that is why you are complaining.
    yup, mentioned this problem earlier.
    And you fucking want to let them all cheat because your clicks are not going through because you are cheating? This is the age old conundrum where there are multiple cheaters and one is raging at the other.
    What?
    What's that?
    Well then i'll make it so when you hit 15 clicks a second, you get auto banned. I guess that will take care of you for sure.
    So you are telling me to change, but now you are telling me to not change it?
    No, the logic behind that is invalid. humans have trouble hitting 10 clicks per second. World records are like at 15. Almost everyone complaining is not legit, but they won't shut up and go legit. No they will stay on the server and spam chat all day about how they can't hit anyone because they are hitting everyone 20 times a second, and how hitreg is bad. I wouldn't raise the limit for anything, but I just can't handle bitchy whiny people, like you for example. Your facts to complaints ratio is very low. I don't learn anything or get any ideas from talking to you, i just feel nauseated because you are arguing for something for a personal benefit rather then looking at the bigger picture, and seeing what would be better overall for the community. So now we gotta change the server for you because your clicks aren't going through because you can't make your hacked client click slower. I guess nothing is more important then your 1500 kill to 40 deaths ratio. Fuck the server, we gotta keep your kd.
    It's only negatively effecting the 25% that cheat. But they won't shut up and deal with it. No that's impossible. They have to have their selfish way.
    So here you go, have your fucking way selfish asshole. here is your 15 clicks a second.
     
  11. Pvped

    Pvped New Member

    straight savage
     
  12. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    Yeh I'll just stick with my 5-6 clicks per second Cx
     
  13. Sloww

    Sloww ily

    Ghost client*

    And, people can hit 15 cps, look at disgo lol. You should really learn about pvp.
     
  14. LOL str8 savagE, yea if u played hcf or other good pvp servers u will see alot of people jittering till 15 cps
     
  15. Sloww

    Sloww ily

    ikr
     
  16. xSkaro

    xSkaro ey

    Your definition of normal is based off of your ability to click, not considering the fact that there are legit people that can exceed much higher. I doubt anyone on this server clicks 15 clicks per second, or even 20 since you mentioned it. On other pvp servers, the average clicks per second is probably 15+. And you're surprised that 10 can be normal to some. You've gotten the idea that I can click super fast, but I don't even click more than 10. Then you accuse me of arguing for personal benefit. "So now we gotta change the server for you because your clicks aren't going through because you can't make your hacked client click slower. I guess nothing is more important then your 1500 kill to 40 deaths ratio. Fuck the server, we gotta keep your kd." You're not obliged to listen to my suggestions. I never said "Let us click 15 clicks per second!" I simply asked if you could find a way for pvp to be equally agreeable. Apparently that makes me a "selfish asshole". For all I care my deaths could be greater than my kills or even o. I've only brought up this issue within the past few days, speaking for those who are experiencing the same thing and leaving, and you're already annoyed. While players are dealing with the same constant hackers using general evident hacks, e.g., anti-kb, killaura, noslowdown, and fly, that have been on the server for over a month because they haven't been banned.

    The new update allows players to rekit in combat, meaning to enter /(kit) while tagged.
    Glb is the Giant Lead Block. It gives you anti-kb and slowness (@Sloww). It misleads staff and especially players, who begin hackusating. The slowness is what distinguishes it from hacks, but it's difficult to discern. I've mentioned about the removal of it before.
     
  17. MetaMonkeyz

    MetaMonkeyz Ign is SnowBagel. Staff Member Mod

    Random people shouldn't have been jailed based off of the god damn cps. I got jailed yesterday for clicking normally against someone that wouldn't have hit registration. Wanting the whole system changed doesn't make you a "selfish asshole" it's caring for others experience and it'll just be plain out boring when you're sitting there clicking and none of your hits registrate, not to mention how frustrating that is when a person can hit me, but I can't hit them. The sad thing is that, you think that people who click really really fast are hackers, and honestly, that's laughable. You might as well call me a hacker since I click fast then, and I don't even jitter. You always change the kitpvp system and it was fine as it was, seriously. All you did was make it worse, now nobodies hits registered much anymore. We don't need more plugins to "make kitpvp better" because it was legit fine as it was, the best you could is just remove name tags and keep those foot prints plugin. I don't see how @xSkaro is "bitchy whiny person" all she wants to do is just keep kitpvp from going to absolute shit, but I guess that's too late.

    "Fuck the server, better keep your kd" you should look at mine, ign = ManveerIsLife, accuse me of being something I'm not, do it. But the whole community is experiencing bad hit registration, people rekitting in combat, glb looking like no knock back, I don't see how Emma doesn't wasn't to help the community, I don't see how she would use this as "personal benefit"
     
  18. nv_Virus

    nv_Virus -=Factions Emerald=-

    surge what happened to the ancient swords that one hit you. wtf are you thinking
     
  19. MLGProGamer123

    MLGProGamer123 Viva La Vida

    Lmfao it's not that hard to get 15+ cps

    You're a shitty owner if you react this way over a few people complaining about hits registering. Quit getting so butthurt. It's a fucking block game.

    It's your server, do what you want with it. Your self esteem is pretty low if you did something to help the server and changed it back because people complained about it.
     
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  20. Hen_Slime

    Hen_Slime The thing is , I like me , but you don't

    ok.
    1) everyone is such a dog here
    2) 6-12 clicks is the usual clicking speed for pvpers, no matter how competitive.
    3) the new system was better before he raided the limit.
    4) there are alot of cry babys that hack. ignore them. you dont have to do shit about them
    5) change it back to what you changed it to before people made you change it back ok. k? k.
    6) people who get over 12 cps are addicted and strange. and should get a life before they click to death.
    7) who cares. factions is where its at anyways
     
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  21. g_p

    g_p grondewa

    csgo doesnt have hit delay coz you cant hit people so everyone quit minecraft and play csgo with the cool kids @Buritomaker & @Davinder
     
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  22. Hen_Slime

    Hen_Slime The thing is , I like me , but you don't

    but knife hax surley?
     
  23. g_p

    g_p grondewa

    nah
     
  24. Davinder

    Davinder New Member

    butterflai
     
  25. g_p

    g_p grondewa

    um ak jaguar? LOL
     
  26. Davinder

    Davinder New Member

    mhm you mad
     
  27. PukingRainbowz

    PukingRainbowz New Member

    have u seen the amount of people crying about it tho
     
  28. lordnelson12

    lordnelson12 I'm a cute little pussy :>

    Why don't instead of you getting plugins to ban hackers which will end up banning everyone, come on and ban them urself or get more mods and give them commands to deal with that.

    i.e. Give them temp-ban or perm-ban.
     
  29. What the fuck are you saying, ppl get 16+ cps easy
     
  30. RogerSig

    RogerSig New Member

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