The real question

Discussion in 'General chat' started by Maxxy, Jul 2, 2015.

  1. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    Ok, so people have been getting auto jailed lately because they are hacking (yes we're talking about kitpvp). Some of those people make up excuses about "jitter clicking" and "skill". I've never gotten jailed... And I always go on huge kill streaks and such. So the big question is... Does surge's autojail really work efficiently, or are they just lying?

    I'd like to hear an answer from any staff members or surge himself, because this is just getting rediculous. I'm tired of hearing from people "oh, maybe my jitter clicking got me jailed" or "I got jailed because surge's console thought I was hacking".

    FYI- If you think you got jailed for jitter clicking, then don't do it so we don't have to hear you complain next time.

    -Maxxy
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2015
  2. Lostvayne

    Lostvayne I'll dance alone tonight Staff Member Mod

    They are most likely hacking, but the crap hit detection on kitpvp might make ncp go up to a certain extent during lag. Getting NCP up on a no-mob server such as kitpvp is difficult if you are not actually hacking, lagging, or glitching constantly. Also streaks and multi dont matter to NCP I use to go on over 500+ Kill streaks with constant battles and some jitter clicking yet my ncp would not even go up by a hundred.
     
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  3. g_p

    g_p grondewa

    The realer question; is pvped really that bad at osuL OL
     
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  4. Pvped

    Pvped New Member

    mhm
     
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  5. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    Can we all just stick with the fact that croc is good at pvp, and we can just still beat him? :3
     
  6. g_p

    g_p grondewa

    the words good and croc don't belong in the same sentence..
     
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  7. Robbin

    Robbin PukingRainbowz's Cousin

    That's always been a problem with plugins that automatically punish players
     
  8. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

    Autojail is based upon your NCP, like Lostvayne said. It is very hard to get a high NCP without kill aura, even if you're jitter clicking. Which, by the way, can lead to arthritis (awful, you don't want it) or CTS, which you also don't want.
     
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  9. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    I thought CPS means clicks per second.
     
  10. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

    I meant CTS oops.
     
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  11. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    What does CTS mean?
     
  12. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

    Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
     
  13. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    ...?
     
  14. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

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  15. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    @A numbness and tingling in the hand and arm caused by a pinched nerve in the wrist."
    I'm smart, s-m-r-t :3
     
  16. GG10HeartedPvP

    GG10HeartedPvP Callum + Josh = Jallum <3

    You forgot the -Maxxy....
    You're a fake.
     
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  17. Jitter clicking is going to hurt in the first few days obviously, think of it as a muscle.. when you go running after not running after a while it's going to hurt.. same thing with jitter clicking it's something you haven't done your whole life and you've probably practiced it once and noticed it hurts, big deal, like I said it's a "muscle" you haven't used your whole life.

    Maxxy I'm sorry but jitter clickers can't just stop jitter clicking, it's a type of fighting style that we're automatically used to and addicted to when pvping, it's like a smoking addiction.

    How come other servers have the proper plugins to support jitter clicking on autoban and autojail systems and we don't? I say we should get it.
     
  18. Lostvayne

    Lostvayne I'll dance alone tonight Staff Member Mod

    ERROR 404 POST NOT FOUND.
    Back on topic, She is not talking about the pain. She is talking about the long term affects it will leave on your joints. Jitter clicking strains the muscles greatly and even though you may feel better than ever now when you are older don't expect to feel the same way.
     
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  19. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    Every bad habit has its consequences.
     
  20. Lostvayne

    Lostvayne I'll dance alone tonight Staff Member Mod

    That is not really the case, Badlion for example, you can get auto banned for jitter clicking on there and they are known for having a good anti-cheat. There is no way for a plug-in to tell the difference between extreme jitter clicking or aimbot. Normal Jitter clicking like maxxing out what MC registers per second, should not affect your ncp greatly, however, over doing it like a try hard can get your ncp up a significant amount.
     
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  21. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

    I wouldn't call jitter clicking a habit. Just don't do it.
     
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  22. Lostvayne

    Lostvayne I'll dance alone tonight Staff Member Mod

    It can be considered a habit because most jitter clickers do it because they are bad at normal pvp. And if they can't be good at normal pvp they have three choices, Hack, be good/decent at pvp with Jitter Clicking, or be called bad for the rest of their MC life.
     
  23. So you're saying jitter clicking isn't normal pvp?
     
  24. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    Well I'm not calling it a habit, arman is. I 100% agree with you uuum... Liz?
    I sowwy, I terrible with names ;-;
     
  25. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

    Yus.
     
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  26. I don't think we should focus on if it's a habit or not, we need to know that it's a way of pvp and we need to stop it from causing these errors, thank you.
     
  27. Lostvayne

    Lostvayne I'll dance alone tonight Staff Member Mod

    It is not normal pvp, normal pvp is about aim and strategy. Jitter Clicking might be normal in the way that it is a popular way of pvping but it does not require skill to do, all you need is a decent mouse and a fast hand and some aim of course, which most jitter clickers lack.
     
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  28. But when you perfect it with aim and strategy which mostly many jitter clickers that are good do, then it becomes normal pvp.
     
  29. Maxxy

    Maxxy •Ex-Devil•

    Finally someone supports my theory :,)
     
  30. Lostvayne

    Lostvayne I'll dance alone tonight Staff Member Mod

    Like I previously said, we can not just tell the plug-in "oh allow people who jitter click", Jitter Clicking is very similar to triggerbot and as such NCP will not be able to clearly tell the difference. Tone down how fast you click if you do not want to get auto jailed or auto banned.
     
  31. Or we can increase the maximum amount of how fast you can click? I highly doubt anyone can get 30 CPS other than hackers :eek:?
     
  32. Lostvayne

    Lostvayne I'll dance alone tonight Staff Member Mod

    Jitter clicking's purpose was to help people who lack aim. Adding aim to it just makes it normal fast-paced pvp.

    MC only registers a certain amount of CPS so those excess clicks are useless eitherway.
     
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  33. I see.. Well all I hope for are more efficient plugins and no arguments.

    I do not try to insult you guys or look stupid, I just like pvping w/jitter clicking and respect pvp.
     
  34. MLGProGamer123

    MLGProGamer123 Viva La Vida

    Jitter clicking can cause carpal tunnel syndrome. Not only that, jitter clicking causes friction in the joints, and that friction causes inflammation of those joints. This eventually develops into chronic arthritis which would fall under the trauma category.
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    Have fun jitterclickers :)
     
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  35. K.
     
  36. MLGProGamer123

    MLGProGamer123 Viva La Vida

    Watch as all the 'good' pvpers who jitterclicked see this and suddenly become worse at pvp.
     
  37. Pvped

    Pvped New Member

    LOL
    @g_p jigglybunsftw
     
  38. g_p

    g_p grondewa

    LOLO
    LLOLOLOLOL
     
  39. GG10HeartedPVPV2

    GG10HeartedPVPV2 New Member

    I have been jitter clicking like a lad for a year and my hand feels fine.
     
  40. EA_Sharks

    EA_Sharks New Member

    Arthritis usually occurs when middle aged or older.
     
  41. GG10HeartedPVPV2

    GG10HeartedPVPV2 New Member

    Oh...
     
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